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The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.

Posted on: January 19, 2008 5:48 am
Edited on: January 19, 2008 5:51 am

It seems that CBS has taken another step towards their vision of what this "community" should be.  But what do we, the users, feel it should be or become?  If it is true that a community is a place with a common ownership is it not us, the users, who have the ultimate power to define it?  Of course we have very little power or control in the long run.  CBS could flick a switch tomorrow and all we would see is "web site not found".  But I don't think it would ever go there.  We are many thousands and with every page viewed and link clicked we pay CBS out of someone else's pocket.  For that we need to be thankful.  I've never spent a dime here and yet I've received many hours of enjoyment.  I can't really think of another place like that in my "real" world, someone is always making a buck or two everywhere I go.

While I have not spent much time there lately I used to find fellow insomniacs at a thread called "The Bar and Grill".  It was a place where there was always someone home.  A place where many people knew your name and, to a degree, the real you.  It was a place where you could talk about your favorite team without people jumping down you throat.  Or your favorite band, or your wife and kids, or your car.  Any stupid thing that was on your mind.  People gave each other 10's.  Not for having a great idea or agreeing with them but because it was sort of a rule.  It was a way of saying, " I respect your right to say what you want, even if it was the dumbest thing I have ever heard".  Some people came by because they knew that 10's were given out in large amounts to anyone who was civil to the other people on that thread.  These people saw their CBS reputations grow very quickly, and left.  Others came by because they hated seeing friends getting along and wanted to cause trouble.  Many of the regular posters fought those who came to this place to cause trouble and try to tear it down.  They saw their CBS ratings go into the toilet for their effort.  In my mind they define that thread and this community.

CBS has announced a new "matrix".  One that will reward any rating given as an absolute number to be added up to give a user a grand total that is the basis for their rating here in this community.  I propose that CBS further define this new matrix to automatically void any rating received in any "room" or on any thread where the average rating is deemed as "too high, far above the average".  Do not reward participation in any thread that has members rating each other with constant high scores.  Just toss these out, and let those places be.

I have never met better posters or nicer people than I met at "The Bar and Grill".   Take away any advantage or any risk for spending time there and it will not go away, it will just become a true community, within a larger community, where the only reward for spending time there will be the company of friends.

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Since: Oct 8, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:06 am

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I see it is still going strong.  well done friends, good move CBS.

Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2008 2:06 pm
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Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: June 5, 2008 10:16 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.

Sinatra, you hit the nail right on the head my friend. There are those whom will be friends for life and those that just come and go. No matter the case you can always find a friendly face or a kind word. It's sad to see hours go by without a single post at times, but there's always a regular stopping by to start the coffee or just say hey and that's why I've made the B&G the place to go for me. I want to thank everyone who participate and keep the B&G going.

You rock sinatra excellent job my friend.



Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: June 5, 2008 9:57 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.

Great Blog Sinatra. Im glad I was given the link to it at the B&G. Granted I've only been a small part of the B&G community for a short while but the people I have met there have been awesome and extremely nice. I've been through some of the trouble makers there and helped get rid of them just because I love being there and around the regulars who have shown me a great time and shown me it really doesnt matter who I root for. B&G's a great place to be.


Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2008 9:41 am

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Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2008 9:39 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.


Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2008 8:34 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.


I am truly sorry I'm just now finding out about your very gracious and insightful post on this topic, my old friend.  Couldn't agree more with what you've stated so eloquently on the topic, and those comments by all my fellow B&G friends here as well.

Let me echo the belief of many that posters, such as yourself, are missed greatly in the B&G, and on all threads for that matter.  I have met many exceptional people from all over the world at the B&G.  And, yes, even some Wolverines too.  LOL 

Outstanding blog buddy.  Hope you'll come visit us again.


Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: June 5, 2008 3:38 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.

Sinatra -- You are a real poster person and a kind and aware human being, it is no wonder that you are MIA.  Does the Community ignore the value of posters such as you?  You are a rare person, but someone who is easily recognized as one who deserves respect--no earning required.  It saddens me that the Community, the powers that be, are blind to this.  It worries me that what are admirable traits in a human, and have been so for centuries, may now be considered  faults or weaknesses!  I mean, you know,  just the little things of life, such as trust, passion, open mindedness, awareness, kindness, honesty, a sense of justness, as well as justice, patience, positiveness, generosity, giving, caring, unselfishness, a love of sports, team play, or a love of family or of friendship... and other petty traits .. have they been trashed ... for what?

I'm reminded of the late former Vice-President Of The United States of America, Spiro T. Agnew (1969-73) who, when posed a question by the broadcast media of the era, concerning a political foe (who was apparently unknown to Agnew), responded with the remark, "Oh Yeah, but how much ($s) is he worth?  Has our country, as a Community, been "dumbed-down" to the point where "the mark of a man is his wallet"?  If so, may your god or my god or anybody's god please save us, here in our country of free thought, freedom of (and from) religion and freedom of speech and of gathering (even cyberly). 

 Thinking as an individual? 

Thinking as an individual?  Thinking as an individual? 

Love it or leave it? 

 Maybe an active Selective Service System IS good for something.

 Must laugh. 

Must hope for the future of this World's children.  

Yes!  I'm fine.  How are you doing sinatra?  Is the real "old Feline" still with us?      

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2008 1:39 am
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Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2008 1:28 am

The Bar and Grill and other 10 fests.

Well put Sinatra!

I think the new rating system is a step in the right direction. I do not think there is a regular in the B&G that could care less about the ratings, they are used more as a bookmark. If it were decided those ratings meant nothing, so be it, as long as I can still easily locate the people I love to chat with. Being left alone from the riff-raff would be nice, but we have learned to ignore and-or deal with it. I love going there and conversing with of all the regulars, whatever the conversation may be,  I have been there from early on and have met a lot of good people through that thread! And more good people continue to hop on board, is a good concept, yes, a community inside a community....

BTW...miss you over there!

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